During the recent disaster wrought by Hurricane Harvey in Texas and the impending landfall in Florida of Hurricane Irma, many of our members have been asking if the government can confiscate their firearms if the Governor or Federal Government declare a state of emergency.
Following the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, the New Orleans police went door to door seeking people who rode out the storm in their homes to force them to comply with the forced evacuation ordered by the government. As part of the effort, the officers were also confiscating firearms.
This created an outrage among the law-abiding gun owners of the country and resulted in the passage of state and federal laws to prevent such confiscations from occurring in the future.
In 2006, Congress passed the DISASTER RECOVERY PERSONAL PROTECTION ACT OF 2006. The law was intended to prevent the government from seizing legally owned firearms during the time of a disaster. It was incorporated as an amendment to the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act 2007 and signed into law on October 4, 2006.
CAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONFISCATE MY FIREARMS?
This law amended 42 U.S.C 5201 Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act to add the following provision:
SEC. 706. FIREARMS POLICIES.
(a) PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS- No officer or employee of the United States (including any member of the uniformed services), or person operating pursuant to or under color of Federal law, or receiving Federal funds, or under control of any Federal official, or providing services to such an officer, employee, or other person, while acting in support of relief from a major disaster or emergency, may–
(1) temporarily or permanently seize, or authorize seizure of, any firearm the possession of which is not prohibited under Federal, State, or local law, other than for forfeiture in compliance with Federal law or as evidence in a criminal investigation;
(2) require registration of any firearm for which registration is not required by Federal, State, or local law;
(3) prohibit possession of any firearm, or promulgate any rule, regulation, or order prohibiting possession of any firearm, in any place or by any person where such possession is not otherwise prohibited by Federal, State, or local law; or
(4) prohibit the carrying of firearms by any person otherwise authorized to carry firearms under Federal, State, or local law, solely because such person is operating under the direction, control, or supervision of a Federal agency in support of relief from the major disaster or emergency.
(b) LIMITATION- Nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit any person in subsection (a) from requiring the temporary surrender of a firearm as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation during a major disaster or emergency, provided that such temporarily surrendered firearm is returned at the completion of such rescue or evacuation.
Following the lead of the federal government, most state legislatures adopted their own version of this law.
TEXAS LAW ON FIREARMS CONFISCATION
In Texas, Government Code Chapter 418 (EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT) permits the Governor to declare a State of Disaster which suspends certain state laws and regulations to allow local authorities to conduct rescue and recovery operations.
However, it does not allow for the seizure of any legally owned firearms, with limited exception.
Specifically,
Sec. 418.003. LIMITATIONS. This chapter does not:
(5) except as provided by Section 418.184, authorize the seizure or confiscation of any firearm or ammunition from an individual who is lawfully carrying or possessing the firearm or ammunition;
Sec. 418.184. FIREARMS.
(a) A peace officer who is acting in the lawful execution of the officer’s official duties during a state of disaster may disarm an individual if the officer reasonably believes it is immediately necessary for the protection of the officer or another individual.
(b) The peace officer shall return a firearm and any ammunition to an individual disarmed under Subsection (a) before ceasing to detain the individual unless the officer:
(1) arrests the individual for engaging in criminal activity; or
(2) seizes the firearm as evidence in a criminal investigation.
To read Governor Abbott’s actual declaration, click here.
FLORIDA LAW ON FIREARMS CONFISCATION
Article IV, Section 1(a) of the Florida Constitution permits the Governor to issue an Executive Order to declare a State of Emergency in times of a natural disaster, allowing him to enact provisions of the State’s Emergency Management Plan.
For Hurricane Irma, the Executive Order provides specific provisions regarding the activities permissible to state and local officials during the emergency, as provided for in Florida Statutes beginning with Chapter 252.31 “State Emergency Management Act.”
In part, the Executive Order states:
Section 2. I designate the Director of the Division of Emergency Management as the State Coordinating Officer for the duration of this emergency and direct him to execute the State’s Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan and other response, recover, and mitigation plans necessary to cope with the emergency. Pursuant to section 252.36(1)(a), Florida Statutes, I delegate to the State Coordinating Officer the authority to exercise those powers delineated in sections 252.36(5)-(10), Florida Statutes, which he shall exercise as needed to meet this emergency, subject to the limitations of section 252.33, Florida Statutes.
But those powers have certain limitations with regards to firearms. In particular,
Chapter 252.36(5)(h) states the Governor may:
(h) Suspend or limit the sale, dispensing, or transportation of alcoholic beverages, firearms, explosives, and combustibles. However, nothing contained in ss. 252.31-252.90 shall be construed to authorize the seizure, taking, or confiscation of firearms that are lawfully possessed, unless a person is engaged in the commission of a criminal act.
FINAL WORD
So, there you have it. During our times of disaster, we can all focus on recovery and not have to worry about the authorities coming along and confiscating our firearms. The Second Amendment survives disasters.
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[Addendum: Due inquiries from Members, this story was updated on Sept. 7.]
U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS CONFISCATING FIREARMS
On Tuesday, the island’s Governor ordered the National Guard to confiscate weapons and ammo that may be required for them to carry out their mission. What that specifically means is unclear. Also, the U.S. Virgin Islands IS NOT governed by the U.S. Constitution, but instead by the “Revised Organic Act of the Virgin Islands,” a federal law approved by Congress in 1954. The island does not have its own constitution yet.
The NRA has threatened to file a lawsuit, and here is their take:
In 1997, the chairman of the House Committee on Resources asked the General Accounting Office (GAO) to clarify just how the U.S. Constitutional applies to various “U.S. Insular Areas,” including the U.S. Virgin Islands. Its findings were inconclusive and unsettling, especially to those now living under Governor Mapp’s orders. Said the report:
Under the Insular Cases and subsequent decisions, rights other than fundamental rights, even though they may be stated in the Constitution, do not apply to the territories or possessions unless the Congress makes them applicable by legislation. The Congress can by law extend the coverage of the Constitution in part or in its entirety to a territory or possession, and has done so with respect to some territories. In the absence of such congressional action, however, only fundamental rights apply.
Digging further, one finds that only parts of the Fifth Amendment are considered to be “fundamental” based on court rulings, and none of the Sixth Amendment applies. And nothing is said in the 75-page report about the Second.
If the NRA does sue and their position is sustained by the courts that people living on the island are U.S. Citizens with full protection of the U.S. Constitution, the issue will be settled. If not, or no suit is filed, those living on the island will be subjected to having their weapons confiscated by the National Guard.
I wonder how many tourists to those areas such as the U.S. Virgin Islands, are aware that they lose their constitutional protections while there.
Our various governing officials are supposed to be public servants, not public masters. Their job is to protect us from people who would enact criminal actions against us, not to commit them themselves. They all take an oath to protect and defend the constitution but apparently many if not most don’t even know what it says nor do they care. They also don’t seem to care if they break that oath almost every day.
If we truly had a constitutional government instead of the travesty we have now, 90% of the federal bureaucracy would be gone.
I agree 100% with your remarks. This debacle of a “top heavy government” is a disgrace. Our Founding Fathers set up representation based on only part time positions, not 30 to 40 year careers. How many people know that your Congressman can also be a Lobbyist, and be paid up to, but more than, $50,000 per year. That’s on top of the outrageous salary they already get! They’re only in DC for part of the year. The rest of the time is for listening to their constituents, or maybe a vacation with their family. This whole system is a disgrace, but no one in DC will agree to term limits. It’s all about power, pay and prestige, not truly representing us in the Capitol. What can we do to make this a Constitutional Government of the People, by the People, and for the People? Something to ponder.
I will vote for you!!!
You bet they will! They can and they will do it again over and over… and they’ll make point of it with your life or your guns.
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As a person who rode out hurricane katrina i can tell you from first hand experience that no cop or any LEO went door to door confiscating firearms. I don’t know where you heard that from. But if the police saw you with a firearm they treated you as a threat. The police were more concerned about protecting themselves than protecting any citizen. The number 1 thing the residents of New Orleans learned was that the police will not protect you. The police could care less about joe citizen. So many people of New Orleans learned how important it was to own a firearm that for years after the storm Gun shows in the metro area were packed with people buying handguns and ammo. I went to one about 6 months after Katrina and the line wrapped around the building and it was a pretty big building. Anyone dealer selling handguns had his table surrounded 6 deep. you couldn’t see the guns much less touch them. Ammo tables were the same way. People of New Orleans finally realized the police were not there to protect them and they would have to protect their families on there own. The only time peoples guns were confiscated was when those who evacuated called the police and told them i authorize you to go into my house and take my guns. They did this so the criminals would not get their guns. What happened when they came back from evacuating they went to the police to get their guns back and the police said they would not return them, or told them they need a receipt or some other proof of ownership of the guns with the serial number. Well who has a receipt for Gramps old S&W 38. So the NRA and the 2nd amendment foundation sued the city and won. That forced the city to give back peoples guns with just a description and address. There was one incident i know of when there was some 70 year old black woman sitting on her porch with an old rusty 38 on her lap when some New Jersey Cops saw her and tackled her to the ground and took her gun. That was actually caught on video. It was not local cops who did that but stupid cops from up North who were trying to take peoples guns away. If you Live up North I pity you. They will take your constitutional rights away in a second. The state of Louisiana enacted a law right after Katrina saying police or any government entity cannot take peoples guns from them during a disaster or emergency. Lots of states followed suit as well especially here down south. On a side note they arrested numerous New Orleans police after Katrina for stealing cars and trucks from Downtown dealership. These Cops fled their post and stole vehicles from a Sewell Cadillac dealership and fled to Texas. Look it up I am sure that info is still out. They fired dozens of police for abandoning their posts in the wake of Katrina. So If you really think the police are going to protect you in a disaster you keep smoking that crack. There were numerous unarmed citizens shot and killed by the police after the storm look up Danziger 7.
So to clarify the answer is yes?
Sure it’s against the law for the authorities to take your weapons. But they CAN do it and WILl do it and nothing happens to them. So, as always, the only thing that can really stop them is YOU. What’s it worth to you to keep your firearms?
The 2nd Amendment reads “shall not be Infringed”says nothing about changes in the weather,I just have a problem trying to figure out what part of shall not be infringed these peoplle fail to understand.
The question should not be, “CAN the Government confiscate my firearms during a disaster?” The questionS should be : “Can the Government LEGALLY confiscate my firearms during a disaster?” “Can the Government MORALLY confiscate my firearms at any time?” “Should I ever allow a Government to confiscate any property I am morally entitled to?” I get a little suspicious of the constant evasion of the realities that we CONSTANTLY face this day and age with our Government.
The bottom line is that during a disaster, you will be dealing with very exhausted first responders who may not be operating with totally intact mental faculties. If a peace officer is insistent on confiscating your weapon and looks like he has been awake 14 hours, I would not think it prudent to start arguing. You can always deal with it later.
If a police officer asks / demands/ requests your firearm, hand it over.
Do not explain that he’s not allowed.
Comply or die!